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Post by ronin on Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:26 pm

I know this topic comes up all over time and time again.
Yet do we hear and learn from our past life experiences?
Dr Michael Newton who has done many past life regressions cam to a conclusion that it could take many lifetimes to overcome a situation or to learn a emotion and then move on to the next level of your being.
Can we be stranded in-between life times replaying the same scenario in different times?
How many lifetimes can it take for one to deal with a situation?

The reason i ask these questions is that i have had a recent reading from Carol Clarke.
This in turn has made me question more of who i am and why i am here.
I will not say that she is 100 per cent correct in her reading but i will say that there is something there that goes deeper and helps with the difficulties in this life that has followed one from a past life.

So lets say one was a hermit in a past life that person may have carried that personal description into this life now,preferring to be alone as this is what this person feels comfortable with!

that is just one scenario that is possible to carry on from one life to the next.

Or you may never have been able to settle or marry because in a past life your true love was lost and your soul was never happy,no matter who you had relations with.
that is said without disrespect of the person one may be with but of that of the soul and it,s true knowing and longing of what is it is it it seeking.

Dreams come into mind and how we can actually recall a dream with perfect reconnection,with the remembrance of all the finer details of a past period that we know not now.
eg. the colours,the fabrics, the time of the times of which we know nothing about and then there is the story of the dream of which it is trying to connect to one.

So are we one person living over many lifetimes learning as we need to and the memory's are from different era,s that are all connected to one?
And which is the one that is going to decipher each lifetime and remember who one is?


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Re: Re incarnation

Post by Monk on Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:26 pm

ronin wrote:{Reincarnation} I know this topic comes up all over time and time again.  

Excellent play on words Ronin !! :-)  

I share your musings too, often thought about your last question deeply...maybe its both or neither depending on the individal soul ?

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Re: Re incarnation

Post by Spiral on Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:41 pm

ronin wrote:I know this topic comes up all over time and time again.
Yet do we hear and learn from our past life experiences?
Dr Michael Newton who has done many past life regressions cam to a conclusion that it could take many lifetimes to overcome a situation or to learn a emotion and then move on to the next level of your being.
Can we be stranded in-between life times replaying the same scenario in different times?
How many lifetimes can it take for one to deal with a situation?

The reason i ask these questions is that i have had a recent reading from Carol Clarke.
This in turn has made me question more of who i am and why i am here.
I will not say that she is 100 per cent correct in her reading but i will say that there is something there that goes deeper and helps with the difficulties in this life that has followed one from a past life.

So lets say one was a hermit in a past life that person may have carried that personal description into this life now,preferring to be alone as this is what this person feels comfortable with!

that is just one scenario that is possible to carry on from one life to the next.

Or you may never have been able to settle or marry because in a past life your true love was lost and your soul was never happy,no matter who you had relations with.
that is said without disrespect of the person one may be with but of that of the soul and it,s true knowing and longing of what is it is it it seeking.

Dreams come into mind and how we can actually recall a dream with perfect reconnection,with the remembrance of all the finer details of a past period that we know not now.
eg. the colours,the fabrics, the time of the times of which we know nothing about and then there is the story of the dream of which it is trying to connect to one.

So are we one person living over many lifetimes learning as we need to and the memory's are from different era,s that are all connected to one?
And which is the one that is going to decipher each lifetime and remember who one is?  


That's a heck of a lot of questions affraid

This what I think based on my own experiences & what I believe to be true based on that & other things, I ought to say that I think the lessons are those for the soul & spirit rather than the "waking mind" we are more likely to attribute them to, the nature of this mind is very much linked to the personality which IMO is different each life & is particular to that life.

"Yet do we hear and learn from our past life experiences?"  Some yes, most no, and maybe they aren't that relevant to a lot of people who have fairly hum drum lives ??

"Can we be stranded in-between life times replaying the same scenario in different times?"  Well not between them as such, someone could be here (in a life) but maybe not "getting it" & not moving on to another lesson.

"How many lifetimes can it take for one to deal with a situation?" Depends on many things that one, depends on the individual & the situation, but anything should be "do-able" in one life if you really try & know what to ask & don't get side tracked or taken in by one of the "deceivers"/ "adversaries"

"Or you may never have been able to settle or marry because in a past life your true love was lost and your soul was never happy,no matter who you had relations with.
that is said without disrespect of the person one may be with but of that of the soul and it,s true knowing and longing of what is it is it it seeking."  In this case I would say it's not what it looks at face value but actually about love it's self & what that does & means for the soul & spirit, love is far more than a chemical hit or attraction / bond with spouse, children etc.

"So are we one person living over many lifetimes learning as we need to and the memory's are from different era,s that are all connected to one?" For some people at least I would say yes, but the "small memories" aren't the important things, it's the ongoing move to individuation & the overall development of the soul & spirit that count,
those deep understandings of how the universe works & how to live in harmony with it's laws on many levels, and the profound and deep "soul pains" from "not getting it" that have to be sorted out & put right.

"And which is the one that is going to decipher each lifetime and remember who one is? " I think that is the monad or higher self that keeps all that info, but you only get it all if you get the soul under the control of an awakened spirit. The situation most have is that the soul (or that which would be the soul) is like a drunken person who charges after any whim or fancy, not heeding the spirit & all they create is a load of egos....

Well that's my two centimes lol.
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Re: Re incarnation

Post by Monk on Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:19 am

Spiral wrote:
 The situation most have is that the soul (or that which would be the soul) is like a drunken person who charges after any whim or fancy, not heeding the spirit & all they create is a load of egos...
Ain't that the truth, been on a few whimsical charges no doubt still on one or two lol

Common sense tells me that in a spiritually developing society a spirit uses a soul like they both use a body;as a temporary vehicle only and purely for the purpose of practice. Like stabilisers on bikes. Shit defos went wrong on this rock though I reckons..

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Re: Re incarnation

Post by ronin on Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:23 am

How does one recognise the ego?only by living through the emotions that it wants to learn.
can we say for certainty that a ego is present or is it just learning curves through life and wisdom that has been experienced.
The ego is normally categorised in a negative light such as the pain body or attention seeker and the reality is how we respond and everything responds to our being and how we affect it and it affects us.

no one can let go of the ego as it is a part of what we are and what we become through the given choices of the learnt ego system.

I spoke to someone on skype the other day whome is well known in the alt community and has a story to tell.
She does not really know me but was judgemental and said i was very negative as people on different forums had informed her.
Hmm judgement through others.
should i defend myself in this conversation?
I never mentioned that the last nearly 2 years has been difficult and i have good reason to be negative  and this is a obstacle that needs to be overcome.
so who,s ego was showing there?giving judgement and really not offering any help(not that i need any)..
but if a person is pissed off.
a person angry..
a person sad..
there is always a reason.

And people whome think they have a ufo story for mankind,or they think they are spiritual and have something to teach.

Hey guys i know how we became to evolve on this planet,and the whole mystery of the human race.
I can help yu be mindful and return to source...

but really your to negative!

life is life and experience is the only thing that will teach you the things you need to know and overcome.

would i like Eckart tolle at a dinner party?
no way.
probably die of boredom.
would ia load of egotisical people trying to to outdo eachother in whatever way the conversation leads that would help expand the mind of everyone involved.

i figure we have all to experience our own ups and downs to find our own way.

those that just want to be heard,offer their experience and are judgemental of others and have no empathy or understanding without even trying but listening to others really are ego based individuals whome no nothing about life.

i was asked are you a child?
i replied," we all are"

through experience people on forums are not whome the pretend to be when they post.
they are very different characters when chatting live.
the ego can take on many different avenues of the mind.

yet the honest one is the true one.

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Re: Re incarnation

Post by Spiral on Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:07 pm

Excellent post Ronin, I think you are pretty much bang on, there are a lot of "love & light" bull shitters out there who's version of reality only works on the internet.

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Re: Re incarnation

Post by Tonz on Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:46 pm

To be honest is only true , when the ego is not present.

I have never spoke on skype  to anyone i havent known in person. Speaking on skype to someone i have known in a forum only , im shore would be surprising to talk to in person.  As if i didnt know them at all , even though i may have been corresponding for years . written words are our own interpretation of the other . as they are in type!!

Hand written letters give more soul to the conversation ,so you can say i know that person a little more than a person on a forum.

Our individual ways of interpretation of things and of people and life itself , is just that , our own interpretations. How accurate that is ,is completely variable. Although some may be better at it than others , as perhaps they have allowed themselves to be more receptive by being more sensitive.

The reincarnation subject in general , for me is to complex for it to be of any use, knowing about its existence  . I think, to keep it simple as I am starting to learn that all things are answered with simplicity rather than the contrary.

Like all things in our lives, reincarnation would not be any different,

If there was some thing you wanted to experience or learn or know , when would you stop persuading it or studying it or experiencing it???

The answer is there i think.

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